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title: 'Re: A few thoughts...'
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date: 2009-01-15 19:46:35
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grand_parent: Emails
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parent: Dustin Trammel
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# Re: A few thoughts...
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The email on the Cryptography Mailing List that announced Bitcoin publicly to the world.
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{: .fs-6 .fw-300 }
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```
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From satoshi@vistomail.com Thu Jan 15 19:46:35 2009
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Return-Path: <satoshi@vistomail.com>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:42:00 +0800
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X-Mailer: Chilkat Software Inc (http://www.chilkatsoft.com)
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Subject: Re: A few thoughts...
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From: "Satoshi Nakamoto" <satoshi@vistomail.com>
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Reply-To: satoshi@vistomail.com
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To: dtrammell@dustintrammell.com
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I group attacks into two classes:
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1) Attacks that can only be done by someone actually in the chain
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of communication
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2) Attacks that can be done by anyone on the Internet from anywhere
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Type 1 exposes you to people in your house or company on your
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local LAN, admins at ISPs in between, and the LAN on the
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recipient's side. Type 2 exposes you to a billion people who can
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self-select to be attackers and get economy of scale when they
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develop one technique to attack multiple victims.
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Sending by IP requests a new public key, so yes, it's vulnerable
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to type 1 man-in-the-middle. If that's a concern, sending to a
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Bitcoin address doesn't have that vulnerability, although there's
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a small privacy tradeoff. I have a feeling most of the time
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people will get Bitcoin addresses off of non-SSL websites and
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unsigned cleartext e-mail, which is already vulnerable to type 1
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and type 2 through DNS poisoning.
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One solution would be to use both the IP and Bitcoin addresses
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when sending (maybe 1.2.3.4-1Kn8iojk...), where the recipient uses
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the public key of the Bitcoin address to sign the new public key
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to prove that you're sending to who you think you are. If the
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system starts to be used for real business purposes, I will
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certainly implement that. Another solution is to use SSL.
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For now, it's pretty obvious that if you send to an IP, you didn't
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give any other identifying information about the recipient, so
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you're blindly sending to whoever answers that IP.
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Another feature for later is an option to encrypt your wallet.
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> If I understand how that is done correctly, you just compute the
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> transaction into the block chain and let the intended recipient
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> 'discover' it, correct?
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That's correct.
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> An alternative could be to allow the network
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> nodes to provide a resolution service, where they ask around for the
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> network address of a BitCoin address, and if that node is online, once a
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> consensus is agreed upon by the network for that address the sending
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> BitCoin application connects directly there.
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It would be nice to only need the Bitcoin address and have the IP
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worked out behind the scenes. Might have privacy or denial of
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service issues. Certainly before another sending method is
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implemented, there's plenty of time now to fully think through the
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design and make sure it's the best way.
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Satoshi
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```
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